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Switching talk page archive format

I was wondering whether it'd be possible to change Cluebot 3's archive format from the year/month format to be ordered instead, since the archived pages on Talk:Office Assistant are just one section each, making browsing quite tedious. --Opecuted (talk) 13:55, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Almost done with this. Just trying to figure out how to modify or stop the indexing. --Super Goku V (talk) 04:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Everything is now at Talk:Office Assistant/Archive 1. This should resolve the issue, plus it makes sense for sizing reasons as well. (It is better to have one, single archive of about 92k rather than have four archives of about 25k, 45k, 20k, and 3k respectively.)

Opecuted, feel free to add here if there is anything else that needs adjusting at Talk:Office Assistant. --Super Goku V (talk) 08:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate the help. --Opecuted (talk) 13:28, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Seems like the bot messed up the index page after you patched it up.--Opecuted (talk) 13:32, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I think that was the last bit of cleanup that I needed to do. Had to wait for the old archive pages to be deleted or Cluebot would have reverted me. Still, thank you for the heads up as that should now be dealt with. --Super Goku V (talk) 01:14, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Police misconduct in England

Category:Police misconduct in England

This is unlikely to be comprehensive. However there needs to be a link to misconduct by the West Yorkshire Police (WYP), in connection with the wrongful conviction of Stefan Kiszko. It was asserted in a TV documentary, that when the truth came to light, the WYP circulated a message to its staff, not to use the forensic scientist who, from the outset, had proven Stefan's innocence. In other words, the police were and may still be, keen to carry on convicting people who are innocent. I don't know if that was investigated and stopped, e.g. by HM Inspectorate of Constabulary. I will submit FoI requests on the issue.

I lack the necessary computer knowledge to post any details on Wikipedia, hence this message. 92.22.148.243 (talk) 06:28, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Murder of Lesley Molseed.   Maproom (talk) 07:12, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Search for "Stefan Kiszko", and Wikipedia takes you to "Murder of Lesley Molseed". Are you suggesting the creation of an article titled "Misconduct by the West Yorkshire Police"? That's unlikely to happen, but scrupulously referenced and written material about this could be added to the article West Yorkshire Police. Adding it would only require elementary computer skills; it would however require nontrivial skills of evaluating sources, summarizing the best ones, citing sources, neutrality, avoidance of editorializing, etc. I suggest that you first practise such skills on articles about matters that aren't contentious; once you've acquired these skills, you can be more ambitious. -- Hoary (talk) 09:18, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

I think OP was suggesting that we add Category:Police misconduct in England to the article (My bad; I trimmed the subject heading and forgot to reinsert the full text, which I will do now); but that would not be appropriate without cited content on the article showing that misconduct was proven.

Whether suitable sources can be found needs to be discussed on the article talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

My recommendation is very simple. There is no need for references to be searched for and provided under the title of, 'Police misconduct in England'. Details of the Stefan Kiszko scandal are all over the internet. His name simply needs to be added with all the others, under the Wikipedia subject title of 'Police misconduct in England'. Could someone please do that, in the public interest and in the name of justice? 92.18.161.228 (talk) 16:22, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

There IS a need for sources and to suggest there isn't doesn't bode well for this request. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:29, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

No; see also WP:V. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:55, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

No. There are many reliable sources on the Internet. There are many (probably far more) utterly unreliable sources on the internet. This means that "All over the internet" is an unreliable source.

If you think something should be added to an article, it is up to you to find (and cite) a reliable source for it. ColinFine (talk) 08:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Question about my sandbox draft review

Hello, I have contacted you before with this question/issue and haven't received any reply. I noticed it is not yet live on Wikipedia, and I wanted to understand the reason. I recently created a draft article in my sandbox titled “Solitaire Moissanite Ring” and submitted it for review. Could you please let me know if the topic does not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, or if there are issues with formatting, references, or neutrality? I would really appreciate any feedback on how I can improve the draft to meet Wikipedia’s standards. Thank you for your time and guidance. Best regards, Loosemoissanite (talk) 11:00, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

@Loosemoissanite I looked at the first 5 refs in your draft User:Loosemoissanite/sandbox. One is just a startpage of something. One is Wikipedia, see WP:RSPWP. None of them even mentions the subject, "Solitaire Moissanite Ring", see WP:N. WP:LLM may be of interest to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:06, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Loosemoissanite. In what way did you submit the draft for review? To do so requires that the page contains a template with a big blue "Submit for review" button that has to be clicked – I can see no evidence that your sandbox draft has ever contained the template and, therefore, has been submitted.

I suggest that you instead create a new WP:Draft through the standard Wikipedia:Articles for creation procedure, which will automatically include the submission template. You can paste your sandbox content into it, and then blank your sandbox to avoid possible confusion between the two (something that does happen).

I notice also that you previously asked a similar question on the Talk page of the sandbox. Unless you drew attention to it in some way, there is no reason for any other Wikipedia editor to have been aware of it, unless they were already engaged in dialogue with you on that talk page (no-one actively monitors all of the millions of User, Draft, Sandbox, Article or other Talk page on Wikipedia, although many may be on interested persons' Watch lists). Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.98.196 (talk) 12:12, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

I think submitting the draft by putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of it is better than making a new draft. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

@Loosemoissanite You did not submit this sandbox page for review, so no editor has seen it.

I have submitted it for review and moved it to the proper location at Draft:Solitaire moissanite but please take the advice of @Gråbergs Gråa Sång qcne (talk) 13:24, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Loosemoissanite.

This is probably not what you wanted to hear, but: My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 08:57, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

English Version of Article

Hello, I’m reaching out with a kind request. I would like to add an English version to the existing Czech Wikipedia article about the Faculty of Economics and Administration at Masaryk University. Unfortunately, when I try to publish it, I receive a message saying that I’m not an "advanced user" and therefore cannot submit the article. The English translation is already completed and has been professionally proofread. I would be very grateful for your help. Thank you in advance! ECON MUNI (talk) 07:46, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

When you say 'professionally proofread', it sounds like you're saying that this article has been written by someone employed by the university. Please read and comply with the guidance at WP:PAID, and WP:COI, and make the necessary declarations. It would be helpful if you could also direct us towards where the draft is - your edit to this help desk is the only edit you have made under this account. You may want to consider putting it through WP:AfC, where you can submit a draft and another edit will review it (but you should only do that after complying with the COI/PAID editing declarations that I have pointed you towards). Girth Summit _(blether) 07:51, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Also your username, ECON MUNI, may not be in line with the Wikipedia:Username policy as it may imply shared use by the Faculty of Economics and Administration at Masaryk University. TSventon (talk) 07:58, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. Yes, I am an employee of the faculty I am writing about, so I understand the need to follow Wikipedia’s policies regarding paid editing and conflicts of interest. I have now created a draft of the article at Wikipedia:Articles for Creation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation).

Please let me know if there are any other steps I should take, or any further declarations I need to make. ECON MUNI (talk) 08:26, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

ECON MUNI, as "ECON MUNI", you have made no edits (even subsequently deleted edits) outside this "Help desk" page. And as your user page is redlinked, it's clear that you haven't made a "paid contributor" declaration there. -- Hoary (talk) 08:46, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@ECON MUNI: your edits were stopped twice by edit filters: [1] as you tried to add email addresses or the text was considered too promotional. Is this the corresponding Czech article: cz:Ekonomicko-správní fakulta Masarykovy univerzity? MKFI (talk) 10:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@ECON MUNI What does "add an English version to the existing Czech Wikipedia article" mean? It sounds like you are trying to add something in English to an article that's in the Czech Wikipedia. As far as I know, the Czech Wikipedia wants articles written in Czech. Or are you trying to add an English translation of the Czech article, to the English Wikipedia? I am confused by your request. David10244 (talk) 23:18, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Election infobox

How much does a candidate or party Need to Have to appear on the infobox?

I want to help by creating some election Pages but i Don't Know what candidates to include in the infobox Tino il nabbo oopo (talk) 14:09, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

There is the Wikipedia:Five percent rule for many elections, although it doesn't apply to parliamentary elections, which are handled on a case by case basis. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 16:23, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

publishing a profile on Wikipedia

how to publish a profile on Wikipedia James Ginono (talk) 14:16, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@James Ginono What do you mean by a profile? Your use page or a page about someone or yourself? MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 14:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

i wanted Creat draft biography for James Ginono Burure James Ginono (talk) 16:34, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

If you want a Wikipedia article about yourself, organization, company etc the answer is you don't. See Your first article for advice on this. User pages should not be used for this either.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:42, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

i wanted Creat draft biography for James Ginono Burure James Ginono (talk) 16:35, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

James Ginono, please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY which advises that Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict-of-interest editing and is strongly discouraged. The purpose of your user page is to tell other editors about you as a Wikipedia editor . Cullen328 (talk) 16:40, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

User:James Ginono should be a draft article, but it would have little chance of being accepted in its current form.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:35, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

what should i do so that it is accepted James Ginono (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Are you writing about yourself?

You need to not post a resume, you need to summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about Mr. Burure. 331dot (talk) 18:58, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

could you kindly assist James Ginono (talk) 19:04, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Again, are you writing about yourself? 331dot (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @James Ginono. It is extremely unlikely that anybody here will be willing to put in their voluntary time to help you write an article about yourself - not impossible, but very unlikely.

Part of this is because a major part of the work of writing an article is finding the substantial independent reliable sources (see WP:42) that are a non-negotiable requirement in order to establish that the subject is notable in the special sense that Wikipedia uses the word. Most of us are not notable in this sense, even if we may be important, or influential, or popular, or famous.

If you do meet those criteria, then it is likely that at some point somebody will choose off their own bat to write an article about you. (It will not be your article, you will not control it, and it may at some point contain material that you do not like. See WP:PROUD) If you do not, then there is no point in anybody investing any time in trying to do so.

My personal view is that anybody who tries to create a Wikipedia article about themselves (or their company, or their band) is here for no purpose other than promotion, which is forbidden anywhere in Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 09:17, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Translating from Dutch Wikipedia

Hi. I am looking to translate and import to the English Wikipedia, an article from the Dutch Wikipedia (nl:Lagere technische school). I believe that the article may not be notable enough to warrant an entry here, but an abbreviation for this, LTS, is referenced in an article here about a Dutch Chef (Pierre Wind), although it's not linked.

Would this have to go through the AFC process, so that it can be reviewed, and how long do I have to create this article? Please bear in mind it's going to be a straight translation in my sandbox, and then submitted once I've checked it's got no red links anywhere in it.

Thanks for reading. Dane|Geld 15:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@DaneGeld: the Dutch article on LTS can be linked through an interlanguage link, so I have done that. If you wanted to create an article, it would have to be notable and the content would have to be referenced to reliable sources. Unfortunately the Dutch article has no sources at all, so a translation would need more work before it was suitable for English Wikipedia.

Using AFC is optional, it could be a good idea as a newish editor. There are no formal deadlines on how long you work on an article in a sandbox. Getting an article reviewed by AFC could take several weeks. TSventon (talk) 15:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

LTS is explained at Vocational school#Netherlands again without a source, so perhaps LTS could be covered as part of a more general article. TSventon (talk) 15:53, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

DaneGeld I have also added the ill template for the English language articles that have them so they will direct to the Dutch article until an English one is created. However the dutch article has no references at all, so you'd need references for a mainspace article on the english language article.Naraht (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Conflict of interest – Jonathan Sorrell

I am a very junior employee at Rathbones' PR firm and I edited the wikipedia page not knowing that I needed to declare a conflict of interest. Jonathan Sorrell is no longer the president of capstone and is now the CEO of Rathbones – is there any way of changing the page please? I am reporting myself for a conflict of interest.

So Sorry!!!!!! Terrible mistake I have been greatly chastised by my employer please could someone help me?

Best wishes, Poppy

Jonathan Sorrell Poppyhawkins (talk) 15:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Poppyhawkins I made an update to Jonathan Sorrell. I also edited your userpage a little: [2]

For future use, WP:EDITREQUEST might be helpful, but you are welcome to come here again. WP:COIADVICE mentions some stuff you can do yourself, but in general, doing what you just did is what you should do. Thanks for the update! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:40, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Oh and btw, if you see him you can mention WP:A picture of you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Mar a lago

Your locked article mentions the 1997 suit against palm beach but does not state the settlement. Restrictions were largely lifted after the suit settled. Thanks for providing the world standard for reference material. 99.131.53.41 (talk) 16:12, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

You can suggest changes to that article at Talk:Mar-a-Lago. It will be helpful if you can provide a source (WP:RS) for any added content. It's possible the source is already in the article, but not certain. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Draft and its redirect

I made "Draft:A", and "A" is a redirect page. To move from "Draft:A" to "A" in the future, I saw some people remove "A" (which is redirect) for this reason. Thus, how can I request administrator to delete kind of these redirects? Or should I open discussion for it? I have searched about this but I failed. Camilasdandelions (talk!) 17:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Camilasdandelions: you can use Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests to request publication of "Draft:A", where "A" already exists a redirect page. TSventon (talk) 17:19, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Camilasdandelions: It is a *little* more complicated, If the redirect page "A" has only been created with any other edits, then in some cases, it can be moved over top of without a problem. If it has some activity (like the addition of categories, and some templates) then Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests will be easy. If "A" has a complicated history (particularly if A used to be an article and was turned into a redirect as an alternative to deletion) then the next step can be in WP:RFD, but there are not many that are *that* ugly.Naraht (talk) 19:20, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Camilasdandelions: another case when deletion might not be appropriate is if "A" is a redirect page for an artist called A and you are creating an article for a different A, perhaps a biologist. In that case it could make sense to move the redirect page to "A (artist)" and update the incoming links. WP:RMT is for uncontroversial moves, if the move is not straightforward, WP:RM is better. TSventon (talk) 11:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

How to submit sandbox article for review?

I watched a video that said I should use the "Submit your draft for review" button OR the "more" button but neither of those buttons appear for me? Thanks in advance for your advice.

Thanks!

Jen HCBLaw (talk) 17:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I have moved the draft to draft space(the preferred location for drafts) at Draft:Savala Nolan and added the appropriate information for you to submit it. However, your draft is completely unsourced. We need to know where your information is coming from, please see Referencing for beginners. The draft also reads like a resume, it should not merely list her accomplishments, it should summarize what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about her, showing how she is a notable person. 331dot (talk) 17:37, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I did copy the format and tone of a few others, which were also very "resume" ish. I will dig around for some other wiki pages for inspiration. Will work on my referencing too. I appreciate your quick response. HCBLaw (talk) 18:05, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Jen Jones - Henderson Center. Unfortunately, we have thousands and thousands and thousands of articles which, if they were submitted for review today, would not be accepted; but few volunteer editors want to spend their time trawling through these to improve or delete them. Do not assume an existing article is satisfactor unless it is a good article or a featured article. (See other stuff exists)

Please note that if you are in any way employed by the Henderson Center and working on an article related to it, then you are regarded as a paid editor, and you must make a formal declaration of that status.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

If you use the Article Wizard, the submission information is provided. Though a sandbox can be submitted, an actual draft is better. 331dot (talk) 17:40, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

User information

I have taken over a job, where I am responsible for updating info on our Wiki page. I was given no details about a log in of any kind. DO i need this to make basic changes? 70.74.180.251 (talk) 18:16, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

It's not required that you have an account, but it would be better if you did as it is much easier for you to make the required disclosures. You must disclose your status as an employee tasked with editing Wikipedia, see the paid editing policy. You should also review conflict of interest and how to make edit requests. In most cases, you should make requests on the talk page and not edit the article about your company directly. I would also suggest that you read WP:BOSS, and have the superior that assigned you this task read it, too.

I would suggest that you think of it less as "our Wiki page" and more as a Wikipedia article about your company. This may change your mindset a bit. 331dot (talk) 18:22, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello. It sounds as if people your company have a common misconception that a Wikipedia article about them is in any way theirs or controlled by them.

It is not, and it may be edited by almost anybody in the world except somebody associated with the company - who are welcome to make edit requests, but should not normally edit the article directly. ColinFine (talk) 09:30, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Is that South Alberta Light Horse? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:50, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

My edits about me were rejected

 Courtesy link: Karolyn Smardz Frost

My edits to a page about me were rejected. I did not include citations for my changes because they are biographical, but I didn't include anything that could be construed as a conflict of interest or overly self-laudatory. Truly. How do I get this reconsidered? Or do I have to cite other people talking about me to make edits to a page about myself? It rejected all the edits, including references to additional published books I wrote or edited. Can you help? Ksmardz (talk) 18:40, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

You need to provide citations- this is vitally important for any article about a living person, please see the Biographies of Living Persons policy. We cannot accept your personal word for anything. You should also review the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 18:44, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

For help with citations, please see Referencing for beginners. Ideally, however, you should be proposing edits instead of making them yourself, please see the edit request process(or the edit request wizard). 331dot (talk) 18:45, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the good information. I appreciate your taking the time to write. Ksmardz (talk) 19:03, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Ksmardz If you have a personal website, or one via your university, you can place information there and use that in a citation when you request a change here via the talk page of the article. More at WP:ABOUTSELF and WP:A picture of you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Platforms

Just for my personal edification, what are the basic platforms used to access Wikipedia? Here's my current best guess, which I know would bear much improvement:

• Windows desktop/laptop ← I use this exclusively
• Apple desktop/laptop
• Apple/iPhone mobile
• Android mobile

I'm looking for distinctions only when they make technical differences to us. For example, can "Apple/iPhone mobile" and "Android mobile" be combined into "Mobile"? ―Mandruss ☎ IMO. 20:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

1. Google :)

2. ChatGPT / Gemini / Alexa / Siri etc

Those never arrive as traffic 'at' wikipedia, but they are probably the vast majority of all 'uses of wikipedia'. When looking at what actually arrives:

3. Mobile Web (70% of all pageviews)

4. Desktop (30%)

5. Mobile App (tiny)

6. Kiwix (might actually be bigger than our own Mobile App), but also Kindle and other e-readers

7. game consoles etc etc

You can find some details here: https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers and https://stats.wikimedia.org —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:14, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Mandruss, I use the desktop site on my current Android smartphone, which messes with the statistics. Last time I checked, traffic analysts assume that I am sitting at a desk. Which is only true about 1% to 2% of the time. Cullen328 (talk) 05:21, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Hyphenated ethnic/nationality identity

Hello, I’m wondering what determines the use of a hyphenated ethnic and national identity when editing. For example, if a person was born in Canada but their parents were both born in Germany, would they be considered Canadian-German? Does this depend on their ties to the country, for example if the person was born in Canada but currently resides in Germany? Your input is much appreciated! 20m00 🗩 02:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Dunno about Canada, but in Australia, a person born in Canada with parents born in Germany would just be considered Canadian. For a person born in Canada but residing in Germany would just be Canadian, unless they formally become a German citizen. HiLo48 (talk) 03:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

The place you're from comes first, then the place you're to. So a German-Canadian is a German person who then became Canadian, or a Canadian person with German heritage. -- asilvering (talk) 03:24, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

20m00, in the lead sentence of the article, only citizenship should be mentioned, and only as verified by reliable sources. So, if reliable sources refer to a person as a dual citizen of Canada and Germany, then that descriptor may be appropriate. But simply having German ancestry, a German name, speaking German and being interested in German culture is not enough for the lead sentence if the person is not a German citizen. If well referenced, such ethnic aspects can be mentioned later in the article. Cullen328 (talk) 07:30, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Abuse filter for editing others' userpages

i dont understand this

users can freely usually edit other peoples user pages. why

shouldnt there be an abuse filter for that Metro8102 (talk) 04:05, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

There is an abuse filter that blocks non-autoconfirmed users from editing other's user pages. For the rest, see WP:UPOWN. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:56, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Metro8102, a well known, long term editor made a change to my userpage a few years back. I just left it for several years, because I do not own that page and it was mildly amusing. Eventually, I removed it. If someone vandalizes my userpage, that is another matter, but that is usually reverted by other editors before I see it. Cullen328 (talk) 05:32, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

what do you do if someones harassing you Metro8102 (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Ask at WP:RFPP with a diff of a bad change and the user page would be protected. Johnuniq (talk) 07:46, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

right.

shouldnt have to do that from the get go but ok

certain other wikis dont let you edit other peoples userpages while wikipedia does

bit stupid imo Metro8102 (talk) 08:04, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@Metro8102: Often new users put drafts/spam on their userpage, because they think it is an article. Having to ask an admin every time would be annoying. Polygnotus (talk) 08:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

cant they just use a sandbox for work in progress articles Metro8102 (talk) 08:32, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@Metro8102 They can, but they don't know that. Polygnotus (talk) 08:35, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) They probably would if they knew such a thing existed; people who come to Wikipedia do not necessarily have the knowledge about the ways things are done hereabouts. I have been editing for more than 20 years now, and still find things I didn't know about. Lectonar (talk) 08:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

the problem with this is that good-faith userpage editing still exists. for example, someone could fix a link, beat you to reverting vandalism, add a notice that you are dead (dead, dead), or other such stuff. thus, there's no need to be indiscriminate consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 13:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't know what pages to fix or edit

Can you please help me find pages to edit, fix, or create constructively? 169.244.113.129 (talk) 12:57, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

If this is the wrong places, apologies. 169.244.113.129 (talk) 12:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

IP editor: take a look at the WP:Task Center. If you create an account, one of the advantages is that you will then have a Homepage with suggestions suited to beginers. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi IP editor! Have you checked out Special:Homepage? It gives you suggested edits ranging from beginner friendly ones to more advanced edits. qcne (talk) 13:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Is there any suggestions for IP users? Last reply wants you to enter your username and password. 169.244.113.129 (talk) 13:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

While creating an account is not mandatory, we always recommend it. It gives you a number of advantages, including extra tools and hiding your IP address. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:00, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

The reply by User:Mike Turnbull will help. 169.244.113.129 (talk) 13:54, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

If you check the talkpage of an article that interests you, you will see links to one or more Wikiprojects. Check those links, perhaps something there will catch your interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

The way I started was to read a wiki article about a town near to me. It did not mention in the history section an industry that was important in the town. I had a book about the industry and added some material to the article about it. I'd suggest you read an article about something you are interested in and have some knowledge of and maybe some books.on the subject. If there is something missing ,add it ,or if there is something you think is incorrect find a source and correct it. You can also find sources for this kind of thing on the internet.. .

Also, you might get interested in correcting spelling or grammar. Add some of the articles you work on to your watchlist and you can see how other editors react. If you are not reversed you are probably right. If you are reversed you learn all sorts of things about how wikipedia works. Spinney Hill (talk) 13:07, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

"Normdaten"

I'm translating an article from German, and this is at the foot of the page:

{{Normdaten|TYP=k|GND=1238539440 |LCCN=n83166341 |VIAF=139492555 |NDL= }}

What do I do with all that? What even is it?  Card Zero  (talk) 15:46, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@Card Zero: I'd presume a template from the German Wikipedia that does not function on en.wp? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

"Normdaten" is the German translation of {{Authority control}}. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll drop that in, whoever it's for.  Card Zero  (talk) 15:54, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Just use {{Authority control}}, with no parameters; they will be populated automatically, when the article is published and linked up to Wikidata, from where the values will be sourced. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Right, got it. Not looking forward to finding English-equivalent categories, I guess that can't be automated.  Card Zero  (talk) 16:26, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

You don't need to translate all the categories. Some of the categories will be linked to en equivalents, then you can look for other members of the de categories that are likely to exist in en, then see how they are categorised. TSventon (talk) 16:43, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Lose auth after a day or so

Is there any reason why I seem to consistently be logged out of Wikipedia about 24 hours after logging in nowadays? I have “keep me logged in” checked as per normal. I’m on Firefox on iOS. I notice that the auth methodology seems to have changed recently (some new auth server?); not sure if that has anything to do with it. Thanks. Brycehughes (talk) 16:07, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

This is quite specialist; you may need to ask at WP:VPT.

Is it possible you have changed a browser or ad-blocker setting, to delete cookies after a short period? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:20, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. I actually hovered on VPT then decided on here in case it was a common problem. Seems to be Wikipedia-specific… and I mean really Wikipedia-specific… I stay logged in at WikiVoyage for example. Anyway, thanks, I’ll try VPT. Brycehughes (talk) 16:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

It could also be corrupt cookie/local storage so I should probably nuke my local cache first. Brycehughes (talk) 17:01, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Paused

"Suggested edits is paused until Sep 12, 2025. Sorry YZiv, some of your recent contributions have been reverted"

Why have I received this warning? https://litter.catbox.moe/4da5mrazb9asl3rc.png YZiv (talk) 23:43, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I have also only received this warning on my phone - it does not appear on a desktop computer — Preceding unsigned comment added by YZiv (talk • contribs) 23:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@YZiv: Other editors have reverted some of your edits. The suggested edits feature at Special:Homepage has registered this and is putting you on pause because your edits may not currently be good enough to stay. I haven't examined whether the edits or reverts were appropriate. Neither has the feature which is automated and just counts reverts. You can see your edits at Special:Contributions/YZiv and click the "hist" links to find the reverts. You can still edit without using the suggested edits feature. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:04, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Middleton family

Middleton family

Reference number 90 is in the red, please fix if you have the time, thank you 49.184.232.220 (talk) 23:54, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@Srbernadette, is that you, editing while not logged in again? David10244 (talk) 08:19, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Help me in removing this alert

An editor has nominated this article for deletion. You are welcome to participate in the deletion discussion, which will decide whether or not to retain it. Feel free to improve the article, but do not remove this notice before the discussion is closed. For more information, see the guide to deletion. 180.211.118.74 (talk) 05:20, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Removing the Articles for deletion tag won't do anything to stop the related debate, and is seen as vandalism. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 06:25, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

This is the only edit by your IP address. Which page is it about? In rare cases it was added by mistake without actually starting a deletion discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:50, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

noindex in Sally_Sadoff source

Dear admin, I see there is a "<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow,max-image-preview:standard"> " int he source for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Sadoff. I cant tell why its the case and how to get remove it. Gokodogo (talk) 06:59, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Gokodogo: It will be removed when the article is reviewed or 90 days old. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). PrimeHunter (talk) 08:42, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Fixing incorrect interlanguage link?

Hi, I noticed that the link to the French version of the article Fougère currently links to the French article for ferns fr:Fougère, when it should actually refer to the family of fragrances: fr:Parfum#Les_«_fougères_». How do I fix this?  abasteraster ✮ t c  07:12, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Abasteraster Huh. I went to Fougère (Q1439753) on Wikidata, but fr-WP isn't even included there. You need someone craftier than me. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Fixed with [3]. See WP:LOCALLINK. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:38, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm not surprised you're craftier than me, I've pinged you often enough for that very reason. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:42, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

I have also been here a long time. Before Wikidata it was the only way to make interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

I do remember a time before Wikidata. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:55, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Discussed deletions

Just so I'm 100% sure, can anyone vote on discussed deletions? Cause knowing Wikipedia, anyone can, but I am not exactly sure. Wikipedia is very free in those kinda things, but deleting articles feels more like an admin thing. So, who can vote in discussed deletions? Brickguy276 (talk) 09:21, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Brickguy276 In general yes. But if, say, you are topic banned from anything to do with weather, and the deletion discussion is about an article about weather, you shouldn't take part. There is also something called WP:ECR that might apply, like if the topic is Israel-Palestine. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:40, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Brickguy276 The discussion at WP:Articles for deletion are not votes in the usual sense of that word. We call them !vote (see that link). Articles are deleted after someone, usually an administrator, assesses which arguments are the strongest and most in line with our policies and guidelines. There are also alternative outcomes to complete deletion, for example to redirect the title to another topic. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Inlogname are wrong.

Inlogname are wrong. When i log in i see welcome keestrapper, but it must be keestramper Keestramper (talk) 10:17, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

It's not clear what you're asking. Could you rephrase your question? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 11:15, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Keestramper: It sounds unlikely that the software would address you with a wrong username. Do you have machine translation in your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:32, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Easy use of wikipedia

In the past I never had to have an account to use wikipedia. Why do I now have to create an account with all the hassle of creating a password etc. ? 92.17.127.7 (talk) 14:08, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Although we recommend it, especially if you plan on editing regularly, you do not have to create an account.

There are a few aspects of editing, and some tools and features, that are only available to logged-in users.

What were you trying to do? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:14, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Your very posting of that question shows that its premise is mistaken.126.34.33.95 (talk) 19:39, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

any help with adding references and citations to infoboxes?

so i need some help with figuring out how to add references to infoboxes. need to figure it out so i can cite the RayWiki [another great wiki focused primarily on Rayman stuff] for some stuff in my Rayman 4 proto article. Thatoneraynerd (talk) 19:35, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Thatoneraynerd: you could look at Help:Referencing for beginners to get started on referencing. You probably shouldn't cite RayWiki if it is a wiki site as it would not be regarded as a Wikipedia:reliable source. TSventon (talk) 19:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

aight bro. thanks for the help! am still learning when it comes to Wikipedia... Thatoneraynerd (talk) 20:09, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Thatoneraynerd: most of us are still learning. You also could look at Help:Your first article. The main thing to check when writing an article is that there are sufficient sources to meet the Wikipedia:notability requirements. TSventon (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Thatoneraynerd: References are added the same way inside and outside infoboxes in the source editor, but not in VisualEditor which has its own way to add templates. This way cannot be used when a template (like a citation template) is added to a parameter of an another template (like an infobox). Instead you have to write the source editor code for the reference in an infobox parameter. If you don't want to write the code manually then you could create the reference outside the infobox with VisualEditor and then switch to the source editor and move the code to the infobox. Beware that some parameters of some infoboxes do not accept references because the parameter is processed in a way which requires it to be a "pure" value like a number. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:49, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Odd file history

File:Edward Drummond Libbey Residence, exterior views, 2018 - DPLA - 4381d816a3fd94d490f7e166fc876e21 (page 7).jpg was added to Edward D. Libbey House in this 2020 edit. The current version of the Commons image was uploaded in 2025, it has no Commons deletion log, there's no local file here at Wikipedia, and there's no deleted history for it here at Wikipedia, so as far as I can tell it never existed here. How is this possible? The only explanation I can imagine is just preposterous: someone added a redlink to a nonexistent file in 2020, nobody bothered removing it for five years, and a bot happened to upload an image under this name in 2025. Nyttend (talk) 20:44, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Nyttend: The added file name was File:Edward Drummond Libbey Residence, exterior views, 2018 - DPLA - aa7c307be24b855d9bbf422d04ae5238 (page 7).jpg with a different string after "DPLA". It was deleted [4] and redirected [5] at Commons in 2025. Such Commons file redirects are hidden in a way other redirects are not so it's easy to get confused. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:00, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Andrea Black

Hello, I am the actor that founded The Tabard Theatre, Chiswick,played roles in theatre, film and TV also I am a singer/songwriter/musician and recorded ten albums,signed currently to iconic PYE Records. Also author of The Adventures of Skippity Hop. how may I create a page please? My web site is www.andreablack.com my publisher is Jack Russell Music. My acting agent is You-management.com i live in London with my Daughter Xaviera who has created the brand www.motherrugger.com Any help would be so appreciated. Thank you, Andrea. recent roles: ‘Mary’ in the film Blurred to be released shortly autumn 2025 for Nymeria films directed by Helena Antonio . Also ‘Abigail’ in Memories for Lumino films directed by Jane Sanger. 2A00:23C6:35B7:4401:E841:9D72:FBBB:942E (talk) 07:18, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

If this is a request to have an article about yourself, the answer is pretty much no. WP:ENTERTAINER applies here, and you should generally not create an article about yourself.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:47, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Andrea: You might more usefully update our article on the Tabard Theatre which states that it will be reopening in July (and September) 2022. Please note that Wikipedia may not be used for promotion and you will have no control over any article about you. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:43, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

For this to have any chance, we need WP:GNG sources about you, at the same time reliably published, independent of you and about you in some detail. Do you know any articles about you in for example The Times, The Guardian etc? I googled, but didn't easily find anything. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:24, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

List of oldest buildings in Australia

I would like to add two houses in Maitland: Toll House 1825 & Bridge House 1829. I am not very computer savvy but can send a picture of both houses and comments about each. Bruce Marich Bruce Marich (talk) 12:41, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

@Bruce Marich Thank you for wanting to improve the List of the oldest buildings in Australia. Provided you have taken the pictures with your own camera and hence can license them as required for Wikimedia Commons, you should upload the images there. Your account will be valid at the Commons upload wizard at this link and the instructions are fairly simple. You can look at related files like File:Commissariat_Store_Hobart_20171119-025.jpg to see how to enter your comments as part of the file description (not the filename, which you should keep concise). Ask at the Commons:Help_desk if you run into problems. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:13, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Sourcing when changing the inaccurate information of an existing biography on Wikipedia

How can one reference certain changes that need to be made when updating a biography like marital status, profession, end of professional activity, etc? Nimo5693 (talk) 12:57, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

@Nimo5693: I assume that the subject is alive and that you either are the bio subject or know them. 331dot answered a similar question recently:

You need to provide citations- this is vitally important for any article about a living person, please see the Biographies of Living Persons policy. We cannot accept your personal word for anything. You should also review the autobiography policy.

For help with citations, please see Referencing for beginners. Ideally, however, you should be proposing edits instead of making them yourself, please see the edit request process(or the edit request wizard). TSventon (talk) 14:10, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

If the subject has a personal website, or a verified Twitter, etc., they can place information there and you can use that in a citation for uncontroversial information. See WP:ABOUTSELF for more detail. TSventon (talk) 14:17, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

False positive

I just got this in connection with this. Can I get input from other editors? 62.73.72.101 (talk) 13:49, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps this is an issue which should be discussed with @MadelynnSienna:? Lynch44 13:55, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Her stance is already known - it is that my edit was vandalism. Given that I believe that this was obviously wrong from the start, I don't have much hope that she will realise and acknowledge that she was wrong just because of my arguments. Humans have a tendency not to like to admit that they are wrong. That is why I am asking you and other editors to assess whether it was vandalism.--62.73.72.101 (talk) 14:13, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi! My apologies, I thought that was an edit made on the main Kingdom of Germany page rather than the respective talk page. As you can see, they have already been reverted as good faith edits on the same. It was an honest mistake, but I will be more careful about this going forward. MadelynnSienna (talk) 14:47, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I see no accusation of vandalism. Maproom (talk) 15:09, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

The reversing edit was tagged AntiVandal and the standard message suggested asking for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk, so I think the IP's response was reasonable. On the other hand the reversal would probably look like a mistake to a more experienced editor. TSventon (talk) 15:24, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

@MadelynnSienna: I would suggest a brief a apology on the IP's talk page so future talk page readers can see that the warning was an error. TSventon (talk) 15:38, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I already did that in addition to my response on this page. MadelynnSienna (talk) 16:15, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Good point. Somehow I missed that. TSventon (talk) 16:23, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Maejor

Maejor

Hi, I am not sure what is the right place to report this, but this article is unlikely to be OK. There is almost no reference, and it was extensively changed by one editor in the last few days: [6]. I deleted the lead image from Commons, as it is a copyright violation. Thanks for your attention. Yann (talk) 17:39, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Well, major WP:SPA case, we can say that much:[7]. And there is a leadimage again. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:35, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

@Yann, @Gråbergs Gråa Sång Doesn't that article need some sources? At least one source? David10244 (talk) 23:48, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I deleted again all images uploaded by this user. I guess they will be blocked soon. Yann (talk) 18:57, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@Yann Fine, but I was asking about the article, which has almost no inline sources in the prose. David10244 (talk) 05:49, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Theatre vs theater

I was working on an article on Front Street Theater as in THEATER, a historical entity in Memphis, Tennessee. It is spelled in American English, theaTER. I cannot even create/title the article. It would be great if anybody would help. I quit doing edits years ago and apparently I don’t exist anymore. Freelance-writer-editor (talk) 17:42, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

All autoconfirmed users with no sanctions (including yourself) can create an article from a red link, either with Wikipedia:Article Wizard, or by clicking the red links Front Street Theater or Draft:Front Street Theater and putting the desired article text there. As there is no redirect at the target, you shouldn't have too much trouble beyond writing the thing. Departure– (talk) 17:47, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

As a secondary note, you should designate the article as being written in American English by putting the string {{American English}} at the top of your article's talk page. This does not preclude using the term "theatre" in the article if it is in the official title, but I'm assuming from your initial text it isn't. US English uses "theater". Departure– (talk) 17:53, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I see nothing that would prevent you from creating a new article, (or preferably Draft of an article) as you have done before, but your User page is not the place to do it – that is mainly intended for you to say something about yourself as a Wikipedia editor (see Wikipedia:User pages, especially section 6).

I don't understand what you mean by "I don't exist anymore." You have a User page and a User talk page, as linked by your signature. What difficulty are you encountering? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.98.196 (talk) 18:05, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I haven't looked up this particular theater, and merely point out that many theaters in the U.S. have been named this or that "Theatre". 110.2.106.35 (talk) 18:12, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Just one example for now: Mercury Theatre. 110.2.106.35 (talk) 20:41, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

@Freelance-writer-editor Just to be clear "theater" is not specifically the American English spelling, the usage is quite mixed in America. So we do not go off of the official name nor do we go off of your understanding, but rather we follow the most commonly used name in reliable sources. TiggerJay (talk) 05:49, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

FWIW, the majority of the results I have found by web searching refer to the Front Street Theatre. Example: https://ovrtur.com/venue/2968. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.1.98.196 (talk) 14:41, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

How do I post photos?

I would like to post a photo of myself SELECTOR44 (talk) 21:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Judging by your other posts, you seem to have mistaken Wikipedia for social media. That isn't what Wikipedia is for, and your user page is liable to be deleted. Accordingly, before worrying about posting photos, I suggest you first decide whether you intend to contribute to this project for its intended purpose: as an online encyclopaedia, covering notable topics, and basing its content on published reliable sources. If all you want to do is write about yourself, I suggest you look elsewhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:42, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

@SELECTOR44 you can here at commons:Special:UploadWizard at commons. Self portraits are acceptable as "own works". But when you apply the latest version (4.0) of a CC license to your material, you also agree to waive or not assert any publicity, privacy, or personality rights that you hold in the material you are licensing, to the limited extent necessary for others to exercise the licensed rights. For example, if you have licensed a photograph of yourself, you may not assert your right of privacy to have the photo removed from further distribution. ~Rafael (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 03:55, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Note that Rafael's answer above is misleading. The copyright holder of a photograph is the photographer, not the subject of the photo, so typically the subject of a photo cannot release a photo under the appropriate license for Wikipedia. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:20, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

"when you apply the latest version (4.0) of a CC license to your material, you also agree to waive or not assert any publicity, privacy, or personality rights" Are you sure about that? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:36, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

permission to use photo

Hello, I found a photo of Fiorella La Guardia on your website and was wondering if I can use it in a book I amn writing about Italian immigration and Italian Americans. Is it ok?

Peter Chidichimo Smithtown, NY 2600:4041:5078:D00:E493:ABB1:BA9D:A166 (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Click on the photo and on the page that comes up, view the copyright information - every photo has different licensing agreements that you'll need to understand and follow. TiggerJay (talk) 05:46, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

If you mean File:La_Guardia_by_NYT_Studios_circa_1934–1945_Trim_Edit.jpg, then it is public domain, as stated on the file's page. For using other Wikipedia material, including text, please see WP:REUSE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:29, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

How To Add Subtitles To Audio File

I Wanna Know How To Add Subtitles To Audio Files, Plz Teach Me How JustCory69 (talk) 22:51, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

This is about how to use wikipedia, if you are looking for general technical/computer information, we cannot help you. TiggerJay (talk) 05:58, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

For audio files on Wikipedia/ Wikimedia Commons, see Commons:Timed Text. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:02, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Math

Give me domain expansion Daniel120713 (talk) 00:35, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@Daniel120713 this has nothing to do with Wikipedia. ~Rafael (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 03:46, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

... except inasmuch as we have a redirect for Domain Expansion to a manga series. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:25, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

how do i make my own barnstar?

Is it possible to make my own barnstar? TheHuman630 (talk) 01:29, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@TheHuman630 sort of, you can make it like one I made at User:Rafaelthegreat/poutine which looks like this:

Poutine from Windsor, Ontario, made by Canadians at a local a diner.	Poutine
	In Canada, where I live, poutine is very common and tasty. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects

You can make it how you want. ~Rafael (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 03:45, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Citing visual information, specifically street view.

The album cover for The Black Keys' album El Camino was photographed on the corner of South Main St and West Archwood Ave in Akron, Ohio... but my only sources are a WP:UGC forum post^[8] and looking at Google Maps' street view (which also features the van!).^[9] Surely, I can't cite the street view and expect readers to use their eyes, can I? Should I sit and wait for a text-based reliable source to come about? As per a previous Help Desk answer,^[10] street view is reliable, but where is the line drawn between something obvious and something to be inferred (which falls under WP:OR)? This question extends to other, similar citations such as images where the information is visual.

Usually, I'd WP:BEBOLD and have added and cited the info already, but this is such an unusual scenario I figured I'd ask.

Thx, _♥^✿ TheMDC4 chat :3 ^✿_♥ 02:13, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, TheMDC4. I do not understand why the specific nondescript location is relevant or encyclopedic. The focal point of the album cover is the van and commentary on the album cover is about the van and the disconnect with the album title, which is that of another motor vehicle. Unless reliable sources discuss the specific location where the photo was taken, it simply does not belong in the encyclopedia. Cullen328 (talk) 16:46, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Personal Page - Diogo Ferreira

Hi my name is Diogo Ferreira an Ex-Professional soccer player. I have a wikipedia page but for some reason it hasnt added my managerial career since I retired. How can this be added?

Thank you 120.159.123.131 (talk) 05:10, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

You can being a discussion over at Talk:Diogo Ferreira and you can post an edit request over their and be sure to include reliable, independent, third party sources which talk about this. TiggerJay (talk) 05:57, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

There is some additional useful info at Wikipedia:About you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:00, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Diogo/120.159.123.131. An apparently brand-new user ElisaRiotto89 has today added (very competently) a new section to your article detailing your managerial career. However this has been placed immediately after the Lead section, before the chronologically arranged sections on your Early, Club and International careers. This seems odd – do you, ElisaRiotto89, or anyone else have any objections to it being moved to, I suggest, between the International and Personal life sections? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.98.196 (talk) 14:29, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

I moved it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:31, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Picture to wiki article

Hi I have never uploaded a picture to a wiki article, I need help and advice on how to do this and also how to search for licence, Thanks Foristslow (talk) 06:13, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

See WP:UPIMAGE. If you are sure that the image is copyright free, it should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

thankyou for your time, how can I search for a open source picture for a article. Foristslow (talk) 10:51, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Check settings in your browser when you search for images. If you make an image search on google, check under Tools. Youtube has a similar option. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:56, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@Foristslow Rule of thumb: almost any image you find online is under copyright and can't be used on WP, but context matters enormously. If you're lucky, there's a pic you can use at Commons. So: what pic do you want to use where? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:53, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Messages

Im being messaged saying that my contributions to random ahh things are rejected when I never edited them. To summarise Im being messaged about how my contributions are being rejected when im not making any contributions or changes to the page. 114.141.107.34 (talk) 09:35, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

If you are referring to your user talk page, IP addresses can be used by more than one person, so if you did not do the things you are seeing messages for, you may disregard them. If you create an account, you will only get messages for yourself(among other benefits). 331dot (talk) 09:46, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Referencing Issues with EPUB Versions

I have been asked to add the page number of a book in a reference. The difficulty is that I only have access to the EPUB version, where the pagination does not correspond to the printed edition. Is there a proper way to address this issue in a citation, for example by using chapter or section numbers instead of page references? RobertoBriago (talk) 12:07, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

RobertoBriago Yes, chapter or section numbers can work, see Help:References and page numbers#Other in-source locations. TSventon (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Ann Charters

Proposed Additions to Ann Charters' entry submitted by Ritlarge. Ann writes to me:

"I do have an addition to suggest at the end of my Wikipedia entry. In addition to my Beat papers archive at Columbia University, I have two other Beat literature archives. One is a collection of Beat books and papers from 1969 to 1994 at the Berg Collection in the New York Public Library. The other is my Beat literature collection from 1995 to the present time in the Dodd Center at the University of Connecticut in Storrs. Thank you for your help.' 2601:14D:4001:BBF0:7D38:1794:D84E:ACF (talk) 22:29, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Ritlarge (please remember to login). The best place to suggest this is the talk page Talk:Ann Charters.

If Charters is writing to you, that suggests that you may have a conflict of interest in editing the article about her. While this does not forbid you from editing the article yourself, it is discouraged (see the link for how to suggest edits instead - as you have done here), and it would be a good idea to disclose the COI, probably on your user page. (You haven't yet created a user page, which is why your username appears in red above. You are not required to have a user page, but that would be a good place to disclose your COI.) ColinFine (talk) 10:28, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Sources

In the page on Newsweek a paragraph has recently been deleted. I have asked a question there but in case it is not seen I place it here as well.in a shortened version. The paragraph details a court case that has been brought but which has not yet been heard . It explains the fact that allegations have been made but does not say that the allegations are true. By its nature it cannot say it is true. The reason for deletion that was given was that the source was unreliable. Can somebody explain to me why it is unreliable. It is also described as primary and "COI." The source was a web page which is called "International Buisness times" Can somebody explain to me why this site is considered unreliable. I am not familar with the publication.There used to be a page which set out examples of unreliable sources (the Daily Mail ,a British newspaper, was in the list.) but I cannot now find the list.Can somebody explain to me what "COI " means ? I know what a primary source is but this does not appear to be a primary source ( unlike the court papers which were originally also cited). Spinney Hill (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2025 (UTC) Spinney Hill (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. In this case I would guess that there is a conflict of interest because International Business Times owns Newsweek, and therefore cannot be trusted to be unbiased when reporting on it.

You may previously have seen the list at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, where International Business Times is assessed as 'generally unreliable'. Note that this list is not intended to be exhaustive, there will be many other reliable and unreliable sources that are not on it.

A Reliable source is usually one that has a reputation for good editorial control and fact-checking, but it also depends on what the source is being used for – a source might be considered reliable for some things, but not others. It may also be the case that a printed periodical may usually be reliable, but its website is less so. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.98.196 (talk) 00:13, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

how do i know if i'm auto comfinded

i can't seem to find it would anybody help me? ArchieMan45 (talk) 00:29, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

ArchieMan45 According to Special:UserRights/ArchieMan45 you are autoconfirmed. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 00:33, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

OK thank you ArchieMan45 (talk) 14:16, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Etiquette with making significant changes to articles

Hi, I am in the process of making a significant edit to this article about the musician Patrick Schneeweis: Pat the Bunny (musician). My plan was to make the edit in several stages (starting with taking the discography from the biography portion of the article), before moving on to doing some radical changes to how the biography is structured overall (In line with Wikipedia:Be bold). I thought it would be most appropriate to do this through first publishing a version of the article when I have just split the discography, and then publishing a second time after I have made the changes to the biography (using {{in use}}) to make this clear. I think this would make it easier for future editors, particularly if someone wished to roll back or dispute the changes.

My concern is that after moving the discography to a new section the article would temporarily become borderline unreadable. Is it appropriate to do this?

Sam(A Horrible Person) (talk) 03:35, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

There is no hard and fast time limit, but so long as there is no more than an hour or so between the edits, that shouldn't be a problem.

This would not be the case if the article was high profile, like a very major public figure or a current news item. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:05, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Note on Srbernadette

Putting Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brrowbottom here since there's a bit of a history with this page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:16, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

PhilKnight, Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I don't understand this. Srbernadette's account is ten years old, Brrowbottom's is three months old, so how can she be a sockpuppet of Brrowbottom? Srbernadette is incompetent, and does not learn from advice. She frequently type five-digits years like "22025" and asks for help correcting the error, and sometimes edits while not logged in. But she is well-meaning and cooperative. Maproom (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

I think the who is a sp of whom is just on-the-fly naming, but sure, it makes sense that Srbernadette is the "master" here.

Fwiw, some related comments at User_talk:Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång/Archive_11#Help_desk. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:55, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

The SPI has been moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Srbernadette. TSventon (talk) 20:41, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

@Maproom I'm sure you know that (almost certainly) she, under various IPs, is still posting questions at the help desks, asking for help fixing refs in the same small number of articles (saying "I can't do it"). I also believe she is well-meaning, but after all these years, do the Lupton and Middleton articles still need improvement or the excessive detail?

If she as a person is blocked, should we have pity, or should we enforce the block? I'm 50/50 but this has been going on for so long (she used to be known as "the Lupton editor"). Help desk volunteers are still fixing things for her, which I suppose is not necessarily A Bad Thing... David10244 (talk) 00:50, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

question

I have a question, is someone available? Hi2077j (talk) 08:06, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi2077j, just ask your question. You do not need to make an appointment. Cullen328 (talk) 08:26, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Aside from its other problems (and they were serious), your creation Draft:Jim S. Brendlinger was written in a strange kind of prose. Sample sentence: He moved shortly after 9/11 living and is known to of spent 12 years overseas, total aggregate time spent abroad is unknown, but is known to mostly live on the Eastern seaboard. Tip: After writing something, read it aloud, slowly, and see how it sounds to you. Consider revising. -- Hoary (talk) 11:00, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Main

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Can someone here please tell me which is correct? A subsection of a parent article containing

1. a wikilink to the child article, or
2. a wikilink and a {{main}} template linking to the child article?

Discussion.

I'm going by MOS:LAYOUT, WP:SUMMARYHATNOTE, and WP:HATNOTERULES which don't appear to discuss it. I'd like a link to the correct policy. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:53, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Definition of the word ratchet

The definition is wrong since is not specific to woman and why is a woman of color is set at the example when you can be any race and be ratchet and be a man and be ratchet, this is just creating negative stereotype for African American women. 67.72.9.158 (talk) 16:19, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Are you referring to the article Ratchet (slang)? Its section Usage states "The term has since been extended to have broader meanings and connotations and is no longer strictly bound by race or gender", which agrees with what you say, and that section's subsection Reclamation also states "others point to how the term reinforces the negative portrayal of African-American women in the media."

Wikipedia summarises what reliable sources say about (in this instance) how a word is used. It is not a vehicle for trying to change or argue against anything: see Wikipedia:Right great wrongs.

If you are instead referring to a use of the word elsewhere in Wikipedia, please give a link to the article in question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.98.196 (talk) 18:06, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Need page patrol for new article: Arman Mnatsakanyan

Could a patroller please review the article Arman Mnatsakanyan? It is a new biography with multiple reliable sources. A review would help lift the noindex status so it can be indexed. Thank you! AnnaYerits (talk) 17:01, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a particular need for the article to appear in search results quickly? New Page Patrol is an entirely volunteer run process, we cannot guarantee a speedy review. It would have been better if you had submitted it for a review as a draft instead of moving it yourself, especially as this is the first topic you've edited. 331dot (talk) 18:13, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

One of the volunteers in the Wikipedia:New pages patrol will get to it when they can, or else it will be automatically made indexable after 90 days from creation. There is currently a backlog of over 12,000 articles – is there some special reason that Arman Mnatsakanyan should be able to 'jump the queue'?

You realise that a patroller might instead judge that the article does not yet meet Wikipedia's standards and delete or Draftify it rather than lifting the noindexing? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.98.196 (talk) 18:15, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Your article doesn't establish any notablity so is at risk of being sent to WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 18:23, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

As you were saying: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arman Mnatsakanyan.

@AnnaYerits: It's really bad form for a new editor to move an article from draft to mainspace without proper review. A good guide is to refrain from moving any drafts into mainspace until you can get one approved via WP:AFC, so that you can learn what a mainspace article requires. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

"It's really bad form for a new editor to move an article from draft to mainspace without proper review". Nope. If that were not allowed, we would make it impossible for them to do so. As it is, once an account reaches a certain level of activity, we explicitly allow such moves, and using AfC becomes a purely optional process for such accounts. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

I didn't say it wasn't allowed, I said it's really bad form. And it is. It's even worse form for a new editor to move a draft into mainspace anyway after it's been declined, and I've seen that often, but not in this case.

It's a good idea to practice writing articles by submitting them for review until you can demonstrate that you're capable of writing something acceptable. This good practice isn't required, and often isn't followed. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:32, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

I know what you said; I even quoted it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:58, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Question about Requested Article turnaround time

Hello,

I submitted a Requested Article submission on September 2. I was wondering how long it would take until I heard a response from a Wikipedia editor about the status of that hypothetical new article. Thank you for your time, SteveTexas1964 (talk) 19:14, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

SteveTexas1964 I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. If you have edited the draft to address the last review's concerns, you should click the blue "Resubmit" button

Note that you are actually referring to Articles for creation, not Requested articles. 331dot (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

I think that this question is about a requested article request submitted on 2 September, not on the draft article on the same subject submitted on 28 August. Unfortunately most requested articles don't get written, as explained in the preliminary note at Wikipedia:Requested articles. TSventon (talk) 19:32, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

I thought he was talking about a draft because he used the title of the draft in his link. 331dot (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Apologies, I did mean the articles for creation submitted on 9/2. I did see that note that most articles do not get published, but wanted to try anyway. If they decide not to write it, will I get official confirmation it was declined? SteveTexas1964 (talk) 19:41, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

There is no "official confirmation". Your request will stay there until it is removed, either because someone creates it, or someone just removes it.

If you wrote a draft, why are you requesting an article on the same topic? 331dot (talk) 19:51, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

I am requesting an article on the same topic as my draft because I work for the company and do not believe that would pass ethically. I disclosed this information in the draft. SteveTexas1964 (talk) 20:25, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

I understand, though as you have been open about your association with the company, you are permitted to work on and submit a draft. It is usually tough for an employee to write about their employer as Wikipedia asks, but it isn't impossible- and that's not a barrier to just trying- if you desire. 331dot (talk) 22:35, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

@SteveTexas1964 The most common outcome for Requested Articles is that a request will stay there forever, and no one will ever create the article. You asked a week after submitting the request. Hope this helps. David10244 (talk) 20:10, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The note says that the associated Wikiproject is inactive. I doubt that people regularly read the list, still less reply to additions to the list. I think it is more likely that, very occasionally, someone searches for information about a topic on Wikipedia and finds an entry on the list. Going through AFC should be more productive, but you will need to show the subject is notable, as explained when your submission was reviewed. TSventon (talk) 20:01, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Good to know, thank you for the information. SteveTexas1964 (talk) 20:26, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

can i put a movie that I got off an illegal website on wikipedia

can i put a movie that I got off an illegal website on wikipedia 98.190.156.8 (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

No. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:47, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Short answer: No. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:48, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Long answer - Wikipedia:Non-free content ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:50, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

no, but now I'm curious as to why this was a question in the first place mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:13, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Put what? The entire movie, or try to create an article about it? David10244 (talk) 20:10, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Autocollapse TOC sidebar

I've noticed that on some pages, the TOC subsections in the sidebar is autocollapsed by default (ex. Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, BTS, Katseye, etc.), while on other pages, it is expanded by default (ex. Blackpink, Tate McRae, 2NE1, etc.) How would I make the TOC on the latter pages autocollapsed also? ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:52, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

@Nkon21: mw:Skin:Vector/2022/Design documentation#2) Why are sub-sections collapsed by default? says: "Sub-sections are collapsed by default for articles with more than 28 sections total". I don't think this can be changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:32, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Nelson Hathaway

I was contacted by 'Nelson Hathaway Wikipedia Admin'offering to help build a page in wikipedia. Is this a legitimate offer. Please reply to (redacted) Many thanks Tom Ling 24.206.97.19 (talk) 09:10, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

No it isn't, see WP:SCAM, it is always a scam.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:23, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

It's unwise to post your email publicly; and we don't communicate via email. 331dot (talk) 10:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Here is a list of admin(istrator)s. (Incidentally, admins are not sysops. But they were often called sysops in the distant past.) None of the many admins has a username starting either "Nelson" or "Hathaway". -- Hoary (talk) 11:22, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

References inside or outside brackets

Where a statement is within brackets (parentheses) and it has a citation using a <ref> tag, should the tag be inside or outside the brackets? I can't find a definitive directive in MOS. Masato.harada (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Masato.harada: MOS:REFPUNCT says: "If a footnote applies only to material within parentheses, the tags belong just before the closing parenthesis. ". PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Audio translation

Hi! So can we use a recording of a Google audio translation? On the one hand, Google isn't CC-BY-SA, but on the other (perhaps) per WP:TRANSLATE "A translation is a derivative work", and mechanical? —Fortuna, imperatrix 12:00, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Fortuna imperatrix mundi: can you give a more specific example, i.e. what audio is being translated and how would the translated audio be used? There are two issues, firstly what is the copyright status of the original audio and secondly what are the terms of use of Google audio translation.

Thanks TSventon. My question(s) stem from this discussion. The text itself is 13th-century Latin, so there aren't any copyright concerns with it. But on the technical side, I'm not so sure! —Fortuna, imperatrix 15:24, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Fortuna imperatrix mundi: I think it is highly unlikely that audio generated by Google from a text would be freely usable for all purposes as required by Wikipedia. According to support.google.com, Translate service is governed by Google TOS; You can use the service for your own personal needs, not for commercial usage. TSventon (talk) 15:47, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I suspected as much... I wonder if there is an open-source option somewhere else. —Fortuna, imperatrix 17:08, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

You could always record yourself speaking the translation, and upload that. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:50, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Kmouth is a good option, though it is exclusive to GNU/Linux and possibly other UNIX systems mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:17, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Does Kmouth speak 13th-century Latin with an authentic pronunciation? TSventon (talk) 19:25, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Even if the original Latin is not in copyright there may be copyright in the translation. A translation by a nineteenth century translator-Robert Browning for instance will also be out of copyright but a translation written this year will be in copyright. The two translations will not be the same and the 2025 translatpr will be entitled to payment for his or her work. A machine translation will probably not be worth reading but there may be a copyright.A recording of a person reading the work whether in the in 13th century Latin or in English may well have its own copyright. I may be wrong but this is the law so far as I understand it.. Spinney Hill (talk) 22:11, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Move file to Commons?

Hello! For the this file, File:Grand Rapids Downtown Market logo.png, would it be appropriate to move it to Commons? It is simple geometric shapes and text, but I wanted to check before moving forward. Thank you! WMrapids (talk) 12:58, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

No. Commons does not host non-free media. Everything on Commons is either public domain or has a free license. Even though the logo is simple shapes and text, the unique arrangement of shapes might cross the line to make it non-free. Also, the two shapes at the top with the metaball-like melded joint isn't "simple", that's a rather complex curve. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:56, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Anachronist: I'll nominate it for deletion then. Thank you! WMrapids (talk) 01:11, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Add page

How do I add "Ghosts in Panama" DrJGardner (talk) 14:24, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@DrJGardner. Please carefully read WP:YFA. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:13, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

What is this weird entry that showed up in my filter log?

What is this? I checked my filter log, and found a weird entry in the log. It said:

12:54, September 9, 2025: RaptorsFan2019 (talk · contribs) triggered an edit filter, performing the action "edit" on User talk:RaptorsFan2019/User warning sandbox. Actions taken: none; Filter description: LTA (long-term abuse) 1133

The edit that triggered the filter was actually just me experimenting with creating custom user warning templates in a sandbox. After I was unsuccessful with the experiment due to issues trying to set up templates and arrange the code, I gave up and requested deletion of the sandbox by tagging it with {{Db-u1}}, which removed the edit that triggered the filter. Don't worry, these edits were made in good faith. RaptorsFan2019 (talk) 14:40, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

We don't typically give out details of private filters, nor sanction people just because they hit one, but I will offer the explanation that your editing is highly unusual for an account which is 7 days old. Honestly, I'd have expected more filter hits. Anyway, false positives can happen. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 14:56, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@RaptorsFan2019: There are public filters which can be seen by everybody and private filters which are hidden from most users to prevent them from seeing the filter conditions and work around them. This one is private so we are not giving details. Let me just say that LTA means long-term abuse so the filter was designed to look for patterns by a specific user. The filter doesn't block the edit and you don't have to worry about it. Nobody has ever mentioned my filter log which is a lot longer and has many public filters if you want to see examples of that. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Sorting roman numerals in a wikitable

Some of our "lists of earthquakes" articles have columns for the seismic intensity, which is normally expressed using roman numerals. Is there any way to make these columns sortable in a wikitable? The case in point is the pre-1900 list in list of earthquakes in Turkey. Thanks, Mikenorton (talk) 14:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

{{hidden sort key}} or {{sort}}

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Mikenorton: See Help:Sortable tables, in particular Help:Sortable tables § Specifying a sort key for a cell. Bazza 7 (talk) 15:17, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Mikenorton: I made {{Sort Roman}} for this. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks all for your help and especially @PrimeHunter: for having created a solution for this particular problem a few years ago. Mikenorton (talk) 15:42, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Problem sorted! Mikenorton (talk) 15:50, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

My template is now used in five articles after three years. Woohoo! Thanks for using it Mikenorton. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:00, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

The search insource:"sortable" IX insource:/\| ?IX ?\|/i gives other potential uses I will examine later. And yeah, there are many lists of earthquakes. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Make that six articles. Working on it! Mikenorton (talk) 17:17, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Mikenorton: Yay! We are going down in Wikipedia history for sorting this out (pun intended). By the way, you only need it for IX, XIX, XXIX, and I don't know if the planet would survive the latter two. Maybe the giant-impact hypothesis would be a XXIX. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

I see Modified Mercalli intensity scale#Scale values ends at XII described as "Damage is total." Pfft. I guess they didn't think of colliding planets. Maybe it should only be a XIX and then XXIX could be spaghettification by being sucked into a black hole. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:44, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Mikenorton "Problem sorted." Ha! Very clever. David10244 (talk) 00:41, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter And Prime too! David10244 (talk) 01:01, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Mobile editing in Wikidata

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but adding statements to Wikidata entries in mobile mode seems impossible unless we switch to desktop mode. Since I am sparingly getting desktop time nowadays and I have a tremendous amount of data to add, what to do? Desktop mode in mobile doesn't always give a good view. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:11, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

The Wikidata devs are working on a mobile editing interface; a prototype version is currently being tested; see d:Wikidata:Usability and usefulness/Item editing experience/Mobile editing of statements. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:12, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Maybe you just mean "Desktop mode on a small screen" but for the record, there is no "Desktop mode in mobile". There is just a desktop version and a mobile version. The desktop version is the same when used on mobile devices and a PC. Mobile devices just usually have smaller screens which cause layout differences (sometimes large differences due to responsive layout), but a small browser window on a PC should show the same. The bottom of both versions have a link to switch to the other version no matter which device they are shown on. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Andy answered my question, so I'll leave it at that. Thanks. Kailash29792 (talk) 00:44, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Creating a new page for Dena Davida

Before beginning I would like to confirm that I am permitted to create this page, as I know this person professionally as an advisor for my artistic work. Maria Mantia Papathanasiou (talk) 15:48, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Maria Mantia Papathanasiou You should formally disclose a conflict of interest on your user page; you are permitted to create and submit a draft via Articles for Creation. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and it is even harder with a conflict of interest. It is highly recommended that you not dive right in to creating articles, and instead first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles as well as using the new user tutorial.

To succeed, you need to set aside everything you know about this person, everything their associates say about them, all materials from the person, and limit yourself to summarizing what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about them. You need to show that they meet the definition of a notable person broadly, or a notable artist narrowly. 331dot (talk) 15:52, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer. May I use the subject's website? Maria Mantia Papathanasiou (talk) 16:00, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Also, if I create an initial page that is not too elaborate, might the subject be then allowed to edit and add to it? Or is this also "not reliable"? Maria Mantia Papathanasiou (talk) 16:07, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

The subject's own website is not an independent source. Please see WP:42 for a metric you may use to evaluate sources.

The person themselves should review the autobiography policy. They should avoid directly editing any article about themselves in most cases, but they may propose edits in the form of an edit request to (this so far hypothetical) article about them. 331dot (talk) 16:09, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

It depends on what it's used for. If it's used to back up basic things such as name or date of birth, It's allowed as per WP:ABOUTSELF mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:22, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Assistance with Edits and Publishing an Article

I recently made some edits to a write-up on my Wikipedia page, but most of those edits were removed. I would like to understand why this happened and how I can make improvements that comply with Wikipedia’s guidelines. In addition, I have already written an article on my user page and would like to know the correct process for publishing it into the main encyclopedia. Could you please guide me on the proper steps to follow? Thank you for your time and assistance.

Here is the article link: User:Prince Kayode Oyetunde Bayewuwon Prince Kayode Oyetunde Bayewuwon (talk) 18:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

The whole url is not needed when linking, I fixed this for you.

You have edited your user page, which is not article space.(note the "User:" in the title) It is a place for the account operator to tell about themselves as a Wikipedia user, not anything and everything about themselves. New accounts cannot directly create articles and need to use Articles for creation to create and submit a draft.

Writing about yourself is highly discouraged, please see the autobiography policy. Your text cites no sources. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the topic, not what the topic or its associates say about it. It needs to be shown how the person is a notable person. You are not a notable politician as you do not hold public office or have not won election to public office. 331dot (talk) 18:36, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Did you take the image of yourself? It appears to be professionally taken, in which case the copyright belongs to the photographer and is not yours to release. If the photographer assigned you the copyright, you need to go to Commons and work with the editors there to indicate that. 331dot (talk) 18:38, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@331dot, @Prince Kayode Oyetunde Bayewuwon The the upload comment on the file says "Uploaded a work by Kayode..." which is confusing... David10244 (talk) 01:06, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

"Noteworthy"

The Daily Vault (www.dailyvault.com) is a music review website with over 11,000 reviews completed over the past 28 years. It is cited as a source in more than 8,000 Wikipedia articles. And yet there is no entry for it on Wikipedia, and my understanding is that when one was proposed in the past, the site was dismissed as "not noteworthy." This seems inconsistent with the facts. Burgher25 (talk) 20:06, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

hello @Burgher25.

Notability and reliability are completely separate concepts. There are certainly many sources which are notable without being reliable (for example, iMDB and the Daily Mail); and it is no surprise that there might be reliable sources which are not themselves notable.

Notability is basically about whether there is enough independent reliably published material about a subject to be an article on; Reliability is about whether the source has an editorial policy that encourages fast checking and responsible publishing.

The Daily Vault only seems to have been discussed once in the archives of WP:RS, in 2009, and the discussion was not conclusive, so arguably it should not be cited. But that has no bearing on whether it not it is notable. If the sources exist, then somebody could write an article about it. ColinFine (talk) 21:31, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@ColinFine I'm sure you mean "fact checking". David10244 (talk) 01:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

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If your question is related to Wikipedia, please explain; if it isn't, you're asking in the wrong place. -- Hoary (talk) 21:17, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

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